Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents Containing YANG Data Models
draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-28
Yes
Mahesh Jethanandani
No Objection
Erik Kline
Jim Guichard
Paul Wouters
Recuse
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 25 and is now closed.
Mahesh Jethanandani
Yes
Andy Newton
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-03 for -25)
Not sent
# Andy Newton, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-25 CC @anewton1998 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-25.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments Thanks to the authors for all the hard work creating this document. I have no objection to its publication as an RFC.
Deb Cooley
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-03 for -25)
Sent
I am balloting 'no objection', but I am serious about these comments. It should always be a goal for an RFC (at whatever level) to be clear, concise, and understandable. My comments below all reflect that goal: Thank you to Yoav Nir for their secdir review. Section 1.1: This is long and incomprehensible unless one is intimately familiar with the original RFC. Recommend moving it to either a later section or to an Appendix. Section 3.7, general: The word 'especially' is not defined. What does 'especially disruptive' vs merely 'disruptive' mean? What about 'especially sensitive information' vs merely 'sensitive information'? Either remove these descriptors or define what they mean. Section 3.7.1, para 3: Why not 'MUST use' vs 'have to use' for both the requirement for secure transport and mutual authentication? Section 3.7.1: This comment applies to every place in this section that uses the word 'particularly'. What makes data 'particularly sensitive'? Is it defined somewhere? Again, the descriptor (particularly) doesn't actually help to define what makes data more or less sensitive, or contain more or less vulnerabilities. Is it merely up to the editors of the draft to decide? What if I, as the editor, decide that the lifetime symmetric key variable, written into a Yang data module isn't 'particularly sensitive', would that be ok? As it is my choice as the editor? [I will note that RFC8341 puts the word 'particular' in front of nearly every noun in the draft, also with no explanation of what makes any of those users, requests, protocols, etc special, or hmmm particular.] Section 6, last sentence: Are there new or increased security risks that don't need to be discussed? Please remove the phrase 'that need to be discussed' as it just raises more questions about what isn't being said.
Éric Vyncke
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-02 for -25)
Sent
# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-25 CC @evyncke Thank you for the work put into this document, I share Gunter's comment on the usefulness and easy-to-read quality of this I-D. I have reviewed the whole draft rather than the diffs with RFC 8407. Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points/nits (replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education). Special thanks to Qiufang Ma for the shepherd's detailed write-up including the WG consensus and the justification of the intended status. I hope that this review helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric ## COMMENTS (non-blocking) ### Title vs. abstract The title is about data models while the abstract is about modules. Let's avoid spreading the confusion in a BCP. As the document is more about data model, let's use this term in title/abstract. ### Section 1 `Only constructs that all servers are required to support can be used in IETF YANG modules` , it is really unclear to me how this can be verified. ### Section 2 s/and *which* is not maintained by IANA/and *that* is not maintained by IANA/ ? ### Section 2.5 I would go further than `Likewise, "YANG data module" should be avoided.`and use "Likewise, "YANG data module" is incorrect, has no meaning, and MUST be avoided." ### Section 3 s/The following sections MUST be present in an I-D containing a YANG module/The following sections MUST be present in an I-D *or RFC* containing a YANG module/ ### Section 3.2 Any chance to use a more recent date than 2016 ? Or is it to borrow as much as possible from RFC 8407 ? ### Section 3.4 For large trees, I like to have a pruned version in the body part and not in the appendix, perhaps with subtrees. ### Section 3.5 Is this section about the data models or modules ? Modules are mainly for syntax while the data models are for semantics, i.e., I think that relationships are between data models and not modules. s/the Introduction section *should* mention this fact/the Introduction section *SHOULD* mention this fact/ if only to be consistent with the use of uppercase BCP14 terms in this section. The long line example seems to be for an instance of a module, should it rather be on the module itself ? ### Section 3.6 First time ever that I read about "YIN syntax", please provide a normative reference. ### Section 3.8 I fail to imagine a non-normative YANG module in a RFC; therefore, is 'normative' required in `Each normative YANG module`. ### Section 3.9 Suggest adding some template text to be used before the YANG module itself to add a normative reference (to avoid the 'unused reference' by id-nits). ### Section 3.10 It is disapointing not to see [yangcatalog.org](https://www.yangcatalog.org/yangvalidator) listed in the validation tools. Is it a hint by the authors that YCO use is not recommended ? ### Section 3.12 Big thank you for forcing either IPv6 or dual-stack examples, we are indeed in 2025! Please add RFC 9637 as a reference for documentation prefix (I was about to ballot a DISCUSS on this one as it MUST be addressed). ### Section 4.2 s/moodules/modules/ ;-) ### Section 4.3 Should `character` be qualified as ASCII (I guess no UTF-8 encoding here). ### Section 4.7 What are the events (RFC publication date ? IESG approval date ?) for `An object SHOULD be available for at least one year with a "deprecated" status before it is changed to "obsolete".`? ### Section 4.8 The "contact" statement is required but can it be empty ? Should there be guidance for other SDOs ? ### Section 4.11.2 I was about to ballot a DISCUSS on this one :-( ... the `pattern '[0-9\.]*'` is clearly to lax for an IPv4 address even if RFC 6991 claims so. ### Section 4.12 There are many "SHOULD" where I would have preferred "MUST", at least explain why an existing type cannot be re-used. Also suggest adding how can an author find a re-usable data type. ### Section 4.25 To be honest, I fail to understand the content of this section, especially what an `open system` is... ### Section 4.30.3 Unsure whether a 2025 I-D should still contain reference to `3des-cbc` and for sure to `6to4`. These terms were probably current when RFC 8407 was published, but let's avoid them in the -bis. ### Ack section I think you mean 'Rich' rather than `Thanks to Rach Salz` ;-)
Erik Kline
No Objection
Gorry Fairhurst
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-05 for -27)
Sent
I think Best Current Practice documents are particularly valuable and are best when they are accessible to a variety of readers. Hence my various comments below to improve the document and clarify what is actually required by contributors. I am balloting 'no objection', but I do have comments that I expect to be considered by the editors and responsible AD. Please especially note comment 3 === 1. Thank you to Joe Touch for the transport review provided by the WIT ART. I also share the comment that this draft normatively refers to the use of QUIC as a transport, but does reference (informatively) the work to develop that support. Please do add a reference to draft-ietf-netconf-over-quic. Please also review the other text included in that review and update as needed. === 2. In section 4.5: I could not understand this as a requirement, please consider rewriting this in different words: /From that perspective, it is RECOMMENDED to avoid defining constraints on state data that would hinder the detection by a management system of abnormal behaviors of a managed entity./ - If this is an RFC 2119 recommendation, what SHOULD be done? - If this a SHOULD/RECOMMENDED please state when this requirement can be safely relaxed. === 3. In section 4.9 (Namespace Assignments): / It is RECOMMENDED that only valid YANG modules be included in documents, whether or not the modules are published yet./ - I think the text needs to explain what is needed to satisfy the RFC 2119 recommendation. Does this apply to Internet draft revisions? (That would seem really a hard requirement, or submitted documents, or documents ready for review.) - The current recommendation does not make me feel like I know what to do if the recommendation is not followed and what this refers to. === 4. In section 4.2.3: /It is RECOMMENDED to augment only the "/foo" hierarchy of the base model./ - Why does this use the keyword /RECOMMEND/ rather than the word /SHOULD/ here. To me this mix of terms obscures the actual requirement: In the previous and next text in the para uses SHOULD - and to me these have the same requirement level! === 5. Sorry,I was not sure what was actually intended by "may be", is this (or something similar) clearer: /Exceptions may be example modules, IANA-maintained modules, or modules contained in AD-sponsored documents. / Exceptions include: example modules, IANA-maintained modules, or modules contained in AD-sponsored documents. / === 6. I could not work out what to take away from the text below in Section 4.30.1: /Also, some YANG modules include parameters and values directly in a module that is not maintained by IANA while these are populated in an IANA registry. Such a design is suboptimal as it creates another source of information that may deviate from the IANA registry as new values are assigned or some values are deprecated. / - I think this could be editorial: It would be useful to be clear if this an example of has happened, or what is needed, or it made some other statement. === 7. What does "encourage" mean in the next para, this is also unclear to me: /For the sake of consistency and ability to support new values while maintaining IANA registries as the unique authoritative source of information, this document encourages the use of IANA-maintained modules as the single source of information./ ... but then I see Sect 4.30.2 provides guidelines, is /encourages/therefore provides guidance/ ... or maybe I still misunderstood? === 8. In Sect 4.30: /It is RECOMMENDED that the reasoning for the design choice is documented in the companion specification that registers an IANA-maintained module./ - I think this could simply be required (MUST)? === 9. /It is RECOMMENDED to include the URL from where to retrieve the recent version of the module. / - I suggest you do not use the keyword /RECOMMEND/ here and replace the word by /SHOULD/. To me this mix of terms obscures the actual requirement. SHOULD is used in other parts of the same section! === 10. /Specifically, if the name begins with a number, it is RECOMMENDED to spell out the number when used as an identifier. IANA should be provided with instructions to perform such task./ - This confused me (sorry). - Specifically please explain what /spell out/ means in this context. - I was very puzzled why this BCP does not require a document to provide IANA with the instructions to perform their task. ... If there is sometimes a need for IANA to ask for this separately, could this be explained. AT first sight, it seems like a lot of extra flexibility for little benefit. === 11. /when creating a new "identity" statement name or a new "enum" statement, it is RECOMMENDED to mirror the name (if present) as recorded in the IANA registry./ - Please explain in the text why? And I am a little unsure what "mirror" means in this context, please use a different word. - Why is this not a RFC 2119 "SHOULD:, as used in other parts of the same section? === 12. In section 4.30.3.1: I read this text: / When the "iana-foo" YANG module is updated, a new "revision" statement with a unique revision date must be added in front of the existing revision statements. The "revision" statement MUST contain both "description" and "reference" substatements as follows./ - Maybe I do not understand, but this seems to say you need (but are not required to provide a unique revision date in front of the existing revision statements, is that correct? (in this case I'd really like to see /MUST? or change to /needs/ ... - I also think this would be better as a separate paragraph to avoid confusion with the MUST that follows. === 13. I am not sure if there is intentional variation in the requirements for the "description" sub statement in the various template in 4.30.3. Could the common requirements, if any, use identical text? === Finally, thank you for takin on the task of updating this Best Current Practice!
Gunter Van de Velde
No Objection
Comment
(2025-05-26 for -25)
Sent
I started the read this draft with a hint of horror to start reading a 94 page long text on yang guidelines. However i found the document well written and clear to understand and consider for usage. Many thanks for this document. It is very useful and well written.
Jim Guichard
No Objection
Ketan Talaulikar
(was Discuss)
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-05 for -27)
Sent
Thanks to the authors and the WG for your work on this important document. After discussing with the editor (Med) and looking at the WG inputs, I am changing my position from DISCUSS to NO OBJ. I understand that the WG has a specific scope in mind and there is hesitation in taking that one more step towards updating the text to truly enforce this BCP for all of the IETF Stream documents instead of just Standards Track. We will need to do with relying on the authors and reviewers best judgement. Much has been gained and improved by this document and on balance I don't wish to stand in the way of taking this to RFC. I appreciate the authors and the WG taking the time to discuss my DISCUSS. ==== Outstanding DISCUSS position changed to NO OBJ ===== I have one high-level point that I would like to discuss with the authors and the WG since is it not clear - this is regarding experimental and information track YANG module documents in IETF stream. At a high-level, I would like to discuss and understand whether YANG model documents can be experimental or informational. I think the answer is YES? But this is not clear. A follow-on question: what is the guidance for YANG models specified in standards track document being augmented by modules in experimental or informational track document? Is there any restrictions? I think the answer is NO? But again, this is not clear. Please also see in the comments sections for some concerns that are related to this topic - those are provided inline for better context. UPDATE for v26: Thanks for the new text to help address my concerns. There are still some remnants in the text related to this point that I am listing in the comments below with specific suggestions. === Open Comments ==== Please find below some comments provided inline in the idnits output of v26 of this document. 234 1.1. Changes Since RFC 8407 <minor> Since this is an exhaustive list of changes, can it be moved to the appendix section? First time (new) readers don't need to be bothered by this in the body of the RFC? 696 3.7. Security Considerations Section 698 Each specification that defines one or more modules MUST contain a 699 section that discusses security considerations relevant to those 700 modules. 702 Unless the modules comply with [RFC8791] or define YANG extensions 703 (e.g., [RFC7952]), the security section MUST be modeled after the 704 latest approved template (available at 705 <https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-security-guidelines>). <major> I am not sure if a wiki pointer is appropriate here. If it is a BCP level thing (beyond what is in 3.7.1 below) then please cover inline and remove the URL. It does not seem appropriate to me to have a normative MUST reference to a webpage that is not updated via IETF consensus. 959 3.10. Validation Tools 961 All modules need to be validated before submission in an I-D. The 962 'pyang' YANG compiler is freely available from GitHub: 964 <https://github.com/mbj4668/pyang> <minor> Should these GitHub links not be moved into the informative reference section? 1042 4. YANG Usage Guidelines 1044 Modules in IETF Standards Track specifications MUST comply with all 1045 syntactic and semantic requirements of YANG 1.1 [RFC7950]. See the <major> This is related to my DISCUSS. Suggest replace "IETF Standards Track specifications" with "IETF Stream documents" 1060 4.1. Module Naming Conventions 1062 Normative modules contained in Standards Track documents MUST be 1063 named according to the guidelines in the IANA Considerations section 1064 of [RFC6020]. <major> The referenced RFC talks about "IETF stream documents" and not Standards Track documents alone. This is related to my DISCUSS. Suggest to replace "contained in Standards Track documents" with "contained in IETF stream documents" or even better with "contained in documents". 1160 For convenience, prefix values of example modules SHOULD be prefixed 1161 with "ex" or similar patterns. In doing so, readers of example 1162 modules or tree diagrams that mix both example and standard modules 1163 can easily identify example parts <major> This is kind of something that I caught when looking for "standard". In this case, I believe it should have been ... s/standard/normative ? If you look for "standard module" (case insensitive search) there are more such occurrences to be found. I believe they should also be changed similarly. 1662 The "organization" statement MUST be present. If the module is 1663 contained in a document intended for IETF Standards Track status, 1664 then the organization SHOULD be the IETF working group (WG) chartered 1665 to write the document. Exceptions may be example modules, IANA- 1666 maintained modules, or modules contained in AD-sponsored documents. 1667 For other standards organizations, a similar approach is also 1668 suggested. 1670 The "contact" statement MUST be present. If the module is contained 1671 in a document intended for Standards Track status, then the WG web 1672 and mailing information SHOULD be present, and the main document 1673 author or editor contact information SHOULD be present. If 1674 additional authors or editors exist, their contact information MAY be 1675 present. There is no need to include the contact information for WG 1676 Chairs. <major> This is another instance which talks only about standards track. This is related to my DISCUSS. SUGGEST: The "organization" statement MUST be present. If the module is contained in an IETF Stream document, then the organization SHOULD be the IETF working group (WG) chartered to write the document. Exceptions may be example modules, IANA-maintained modules, or modules contained in AD-sponsored documents. For other standards organizations, a similar approach is also suggested. The "contact" statement MUST be present. If the module is contained in an IETF Stream document, then the WG web and mailing information SHOULD be present, and the main document author or editor contact information SHOULD be present. If additional authors or editors exist, their contact information MAY be present. There is no need to include the contact information for WG Chairs. Exceptions may be example modules, IANA-maintained modules, or modules contained in AD-sponsored documents. For other standards organizations, a similar approach is also suggested. 1823 The following example URNs would be valid namespace statement values 1824 for Standards Track modules: 1826 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-partial-lock 1828 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-state 1830 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf 1832 Note that a different URN prefix string SHOULD be used for modules 1833 that are not Standards Track. The string SHOULD be selected 1834 according to the guidelines in Section 5.3 of [RFC7950]. 1836 The following URIs exemplify what might be used by modules that are 1837 not Standards Track. <major> This is again limiting to standards track document and related to my DISCUSS. Suggest replacing "Standards Track" with "IETF Stream document" 3205 4.30.3. Guidance for Writing the IANA Considerations for RFCs Defining 3206 IANA-Maintained Modules <major> What is missing is guidance for future documents (i.e. not RFC IIII) that allocate code points from a registry that is associated with an IANA-maintained YANG module. I guess the instruction for such a document is to not give any specific instruction related to such a module (e.g., don't try to repeat the updated module in appendix or such?) - all of this should be taken care of by IANA automatically based on instructions provided in RFC IIII ? <EoRv26>
Mike Bishop
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-02 for -25)
Sent
I also share Gunter's initial reaction. While fine in this document, as it doesn't deal directly with the DNS, I would consider using a replacement token other than "AAAA" in future work, since this is a token that occurs somewhat frequently in IETF documents. (RFCAAAA is fine.) I was surprised by the change in 4.1 from RFC7950 to RFC6020, since the latter is older than the reference it replaces. However, the content looks correct in 6020, so I'm guessing this is deliberate and a fix to an error in RFC8407. I didn't find anything in the list of changes to reflect this, however; was there an erratum filed for this? In Section 5, the current practice is to list the IETF, rather than the IESG, as the change controller for our registrations. IANA isn't revisiting old registrations to make this change proactively, but while you're updating these, consider updating that field as well. This may be excessive, but just for clarity, does Appendix B need a note to the RFC Editor clarifying that the notes to the RFC Editor in the template are part of the template and should not be acted upon during the processing of this document? ===NITS FOLLOW=== Section 2, "Some of the templates defined in the document uses" => "Some of the templates defined in the document use" Section 3.5, "noted following [RFC8792]" could be parsed as placing the note after RFC8792; consider "indicated with a reference to [RFC8792]" Section 3.7, "define exclusively modules following" => "exclusively define modules that follow" Section 3.7.1, consider "have to use" => "require" x2 Section 3.7.1, "as normative references." => "as a normative reference."
Orie Steele
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-02 for -25)
Sent
# Orie Steele, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-25 CC @OR13 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-25.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments ### Why not MUST? #### Tree Diagrams ``` 561 YANG tree diagrams provide a concise representation of a YANG module 562 and SHOULD be included to help readers understand YANG module 563 structure. Guidelines on tree diagrams can be found in Section 3 of 564 [RFC8340]. Tree diagrams longer than one page SHOULD be included in 565 an appendix, i.e., not in the main body of the document. ``` Under which cases should tree diagrams not be included? #### Consistent indentation ``` 597 Consistent indentation SHOULD be used for all examples, including 598 YANG fragments and protocol message instance data. If line wrapping ``` ``` 677 Consistent indentation and formatting SHOULD be used in all YANG 678 statements within a module. ``` What is consistent formatting? Why are these SHOULDs, when are exceptions expected or encouraged? #### Module names ``` 1059 A distinctive word or abbreviation (e.g., protocol name or working 1060 group abbreviation) SHOULD be used in the module name. If new ``` ### IESG as Contact for YANG Modules ``` 900 URI: 901 Registrant Contact: The IESG. 902 XML: N/A; the requested URI is an XML namespace. ``` I recognize this comes from the XML namespace registration process... Is the IESG truly the best contact choice for these YANG registration templates now? #### include prefix in YANG identity ``` 1518 XPath expressions that contain a literal value representing a YANG 1519 identity SHOULD always include the declared prefix of the module 1520 where the identity is defined. ``` When is this not a good idea? #### IETF WG as organization ``` 1656 The "organization" statement MUST be present. If the module is 1657 contained in a document intended for IETF Standards Track status, 1658 then the organization SHOULD be the IETF working group (WG) chartered 1659 to write the document. For other standards organizations, a similar 1660 approach is also suggested. ``` When is a different organization name than the IETF WG recommended? ### define validated ``` 1010 the YANG module(s). Examples MUST be validated. Refer to ``` This implies validation, but does not require tools to agree on outcome. Not being a YANG expert, I'm not sure if there is more useful guidance to be provided here. ### Code markers and text ``` 1034 In order to ease extraction and validation of examples, it is 1035 RECOMMENDED to use code markers. ``` Does this imply that consumers of yang should also prefer to use representations that support code markers? ### How to check for uniqueness ``` 1065 All published module names MUST be unique. For a YANG module 1066 published in an RFC, this uniqueness is guaranteed by IANA 1067 (Section 14 of [RFC6020]). For unpublished modules, the authors need 1068 to check that no other work in progress is using the same module 1069 name. ``` How should authors perform this check? Is there a mailing list? #### Why MAY? ``` 1153 For convenience, prefix values of example modules MAY be prefixed 1154 with "ex" or similar patterns. In doing so, readers of example 1155 modules or tree diagrams that mix both example and standard modules 1156 can easily identify example parts. ``` Seems like this would improve readability. ### SHOULD consider ``` 1510 and the XPath value space. The data types are not the same in both, 1511 and conversion between YANG and XPath data types SHOULD be considered 1512 carefully. ``` Consider making this SHOULD lower case. ## Nits ### moodules 🐄 ``` 1089 definition being referenced. This allows the same name to be used in 1090 multiple moodules, even if the names are not unique. In the example ``` ### syntax error? ``` 1642 leaf reserved { 1643 type string; 1644 description 1645 "This object has no purpose at this time, but a future 1646 revision of this module might define a purpose 1647 for this object."; 1648 } 1649 } ``` Missing `}` ? ### Trailing : ``` 1806 A standard namespace statement value SHOULD have the following form: 1808 <URN prefix string>:<module-name> 1810 The following URN prefix string SHOULD be used for published and 1811 unpublished YANG modules: 1813 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang: ``` This reads like "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang::ietf-netconf-partial-lock" would be expected.
Paul Wouters
No Objection
Roman Danyliw
No Objection
Comment
(2025-06-02 for -25)
Sent
Thank you to Christer Holmberg for the GENART review. ** Section 3 All guidelines for I-D authors [ID-Guidelines] MUST be followed. Appreciating that this text was carried over from RFC8407: -- Why are requirement set for all I-Ds being repeated here? This would be true for any document, on a YANG topic or not. -- Versioning: which exact version of each page is mandatory to implement? Is it every future version? -- Why is some other clarifying guidance about minting RFCs not include – e.g., https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-the-use-of-bcp-14-key-words/ or guidance to adhere to the internet architecture. IMO, it is not appropriate to reference an educational wiki with a normative MUST. I also don’t see value in repeating what is required of every I-D. There are a few other places noted below where guidance about writing an I-D which isn’t specific to YANG is repeated. ** Section 3 The following sections MUST be present in an I-D containing a YANG module: * Narrative sections * Definition sections * Security Considerations section * IANA Considerations section * References section Same comment as above. Why are document elements already required by other guidance for ALL I-Ds listed here (e.g., Security Considerations, IANA considerations)? Why are some required things omitted (e.g., an abstract per https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7322.html#section-4.3)? I would recommend focusing on what is YANG specific. ** Section 3.4. If the document contains major Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) exceptions or include a temporary non-NMDA module [RFC8342], then the Introduction section should mention this fact with the reasoning that motivated that design. Refer to Section 4.23 for more NMDA-related guidance. Specifically, Section 4.23.2 includes a recommendation for designers to describe and justify any NMDA exceptions in detail as part of the module itself. What constitutes a “major” NMDA exception? What’s the threshold between “major” (which requires documentation in the abstract) and minor (which would not)? ** Section 3.8 In order to comply with IESG policy as set forth in <https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html>, every I-D that is submitted to the IESG for publication MUST contain an IANA Considerations section. The requirements for this section vary depending on what actions are required of the IANA. If there are no IANA considerations applicable to the document, then the IANA Considerations section will state that "This document has no IANA actions". Refer to the guidelines in [RFC8126] for more details. Why is this paragraph needed. This is true for EVERY I-D, Yang related or not. ** Section 3.8 Each normative YANG module MUST be registered in both … What is a “normative YANG module”? Is that one specified in the document? Recommend being clearer. ** Section 4.30.2 Designers of IANA-maintained modules MAY supply the full initial version of the module in a specification document that registers the module or only a script to be used (including by IANA) for generating the module (e.g., an XSLT stylesheet as in Appendix A of [RFC9108] or a Python script as in [RFC9645]). … Note: [Style] provides XSLT 1.0 stylesheets and other tools for translating IANA registries to YANG modules. The tools can be used to generate up-to-date revisions of an IANA-maintained module based upon the XML representation of an IANA registry. -- What is the relationship between the guidance that code may be supplied in an I-D on transforming a registry and this Note? -- Is this a note for IANA? Future I-D authors? ** Section 4.30.3 In addition to the IANA considerations in Section 3.8, the IANA Considerations Section of an RFC that includes an IANA-maintained module MUST provide the required instructions for IANA to automatically perform the maintenance of that IANA module. What is being directed by the phrase “automatically perform[ed]”? How is this different that other IANA guidance?
Mohamed Boucadair
Recuse
Comment
(2025-05-06 for -25)
Not sent
As I'm the editor of the spec.