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Which security hole? In the standard setup the bridge only accepts requests
from an apache or iis front end from localhost.

If security is your concern, you should disable the PhpCGIServlet and use
the Apache or IIS front end anyway.

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Apr 29, 2009 11:04 nachm. schrieb am <
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I'm sorry to interrupt, but I would be happy if you check now what files
really
are necessary to be enabled instead of opening a security hole for everyone.

thanks.


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> I think java.lang.AllPermissions is a good start then. > TOMCAT_HOME/lib
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I'm sorry to interrupt, but I would be happy if you check now what files
really
are necessary to be enabled instead of opening a security hole for everyone.

thanks.


2009/4/29 <php...@li...>

> I think java.lang.AllPermissions is a good start then.
> TOMCAT_HOME/lib has AllPermissions, too.
>
> Regards,
> Jost Boekemeier
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> I will verify what are the JSP permissions.
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> Debian Policy does not allow a package manipulate configuration files
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> Because of this, the right way is to create a new own file at policy.d
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> I tested
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> /etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/60JavaBridge.policy
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>
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> And it worked well after restarting tomcat.
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> I simply placed the war file at the autodeploy dir and automagically all
>
> worked.
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> I will try to create a new package using the debconf tools for manipulating
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> the new
>
> file and test it.
>
> Regards.
>
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May be. But we may need a few releases to determine the correct permissions
by try and error.

Furthermore the JavaBridge contains the OSGI framework used by the BIRT
report engine. I don't know exactly which permissions it needs.

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Hello,

I found [3] and [4].

Instead of AllPermissions, a good security should list the exact files

and respective permissions.

Well, what are the essential ones (files X permissions)?

Regards.

Andre Felipe



[3] http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html

[4] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/permissions.html





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Hello,

I found [3] and [4].

Instead of AllPermissions, a good security should list the exact files

and respective permissions.

Well, what are the essential ones (files X permissions)?

Regards.

Andre Felipe



[3] http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html

[4] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/permissions.html





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I think java.lang.AllPermissions is a good start then.
TOMCAT_HOME/lib has AllPermissions, too.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

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Hello,

I will verify what are the JSP permissions.

Debian Policy does not allow a package manipulate configuration files

from other packages.

Because of this, the right way is to create a new own file at policy.d

directory

I tested

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/60JavaBridge.policy



containing:

grant codeBase "file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-" {
permission java.security.AllPermission;

};



And it worked well after restarting tomcat.

I simply placed the war file at the autodeploy dir and automagically all

worked.



I will try to create a new package using the debconf tools for manipulating

the new

file and test it.

Regards.

Andre Felipe











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Hello,

I will verify what are the JSP permissions.

Debian Policy does not allow a package manipulate configuration files 

from other packages.

Because of this, the right way is to create a new own file at policy.d

directory

I tested 

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/60JavaBridge.policy



containing:



grant codeBase "file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-" 

{ 

permission java.security.AllPermission; 

}; 



And it worked well after restarting tomcat.

I simply placed the war file at the autodeploy dir and automagically all

worked.



I will try to create a new package using the debconf tools for manipulating

the new

file and test it.

Regards.

Andre Felipe 











On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:22:26 +0200,

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> I think PHP should have the same permissions tha JSP has.

> 

> If I understand Java's security correctly, we only need to place the

> JavaBridge.jar into the same directory from which the JSP library is

> loaded.

> 

> Unfortunately I can't verify this at the moment.

> 

> Regards,

> Jost Boekemeier



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I think PHP should have the same permissions tha JSP has.

If I understand Java's security correctly, we only need to place the
JavaBridge.jar into the same directory from which the JSP library is loaded.

Unfortunately I can't verify this at the moment.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

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The following worked enough at

compiling 5.4.4.2-1 debian package from cvs and after restarting

the tomcat5.5 server with



invoke-rc.d tomcat5.5 restart





Added at:

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/50user.policy



The lines:

grant codeBase "file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-" { permission
java.security.AllPer...
But i guess it is too permissive for production environment.

Is there a stricter security configuration that allow

JavaBridge work, or it should stay "AllPermissions" for all directory?



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Hello,

The following worked enough at 

compiling 5.4.4.2-1 debian package from cvs and after restarting

the tomcat5.5 server with



invoke-rc.d tomcat5.5 restart





Added at:

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/50user.policy 



The lines:



grant codeBase "file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-" 

{

 permission java.security.AllPermission; 

}; 



But i guess it is too permissive for production environment.

Is there a stricter security configuration that allow

JavaBridge work, or it should stay "AllPermissions" for all directory?



Regards.

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I haven't tested it, but it may be suficient to move the JavaBridge.jar,
php-script.jar and php-servlet.jar to tomcats lib dir. Libraries loaded from
this directory should have AllPermission.

I will test this. This package change will be useful for the rpm package,
too.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

Apr 29, 2009 10:01 nachm. schrieb am <
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Hello
Searching around, I found that tomcat5.5 directories were reorganized
in Debian Lenny, for FHS compliance.
Also, debian sun-jdk and tomcat 5.5 packages turn on security by default,
allowing
multiapps deployment.
Different from upstream tomcat.
Then, old or weak policies may break.
The debian right way should be to configure
/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/50user.policy
following [1] doc.
and [0] hints regarding paths, if needed.
I will try something like

grant codeBase
"file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-"
{
       permission java.security.AllPermission;
};

Maybe could work.
More suggestions?
Regards.
Andre Felipe

[0]
http://aleph-null.tv/article/20080327-0202-760.xml/Tomcat-5.5-On-Debian:-Security-policies-and-%7Bcatalina.home%7D
[1] http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html



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Searching around, I found that tomcat5.5 directories were reorganized
in Debian Lenny, for FHS compliance.
Also, debian sun-jdk and tomcat 5.5 packages turn on security by default,
allowing 
multiapps deployment.
Different from upstream tomcat.
Then, old or weak policies may break.
The debian right way should be to configure 
/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/50user.policy
following [1] doc.
and [0] hints regarding paths, if needed.
I will try something like 

grant codeBase 
"file:${catalina.base}/webapps/JavaBridge/-" 
{
        permission java.security.AllPermission;
};

Maybe could work.
More suggestions?
Regards.
Andre Felipe

[0]
http://aleph-null.tv/article/20080327-0202-760.xml/Tomcat-5.5-On-Debian:-Security-policies-and-%7Bcatalina.home%7D
[1] http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/security-manager-howto.html



On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:41:43 -0300,
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> 
> I guess the right way is a correct edition of
> 
> /etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/04webapps.policy
> 
> using the debconf tools.
> 

Yes, you are right.

I've got this strange idea when reading the support request. But since the
(deb- and rpm-) packages depend on apache anyway, there's no problem.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

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Hello,

Despite being "possible" to manipulate the global web.xml file

it should be avoided.

The deployment must be feasible using  application's web.xml (and

sometimes,

the context.xml also) into the war file.

Maybe even using some clever tomcat manager html interface command.

Or using Ant commands (then, one more dependency).

Or security issues will rise ahead.

I guess the right way is a correct edition of

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/04webapps.policy

using the debconf tools.

The web.xml is deployed already, but it is blocked, afaik.

Suggestions are welcome.

Regards.

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Hello,

Despite being "possible" to manipulate the global web.xml file

it should be avoided.

The deployment must be feasible using  application's web.xml (and

sometimes,

the context.xml also) into the war file. 

Maybe even using some clever tomcat manager html interface command.

Or using Ant commands (then, one more dependency).

Or security issues will rise ahead.

I guess the right way is a correct edition of

/etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/04webapps.policy

using the debconf tools.

The web.xml is deployed already, but it is blocked, afaik.

Suggestions are welcome.

Regards.

Andre Felipe Machado







On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:03:07 +0200,

php...@li... wrote:

> Hi Andre,

> 

> Is it possible to install the bridge so that the debian security manager

> doesn't stop the back end from running php, if no apache is installed or

> used? As described here:

> http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/pjb/FAQ.html#global-servlet

> 

> If it is not possible to manipulate tomcat's global web.xml from a debian

> package, we could leave it as it is and add a note to the debian install

> instructions

> so that users can change the web.xml themselves.

> 

> Regards,

> Jost Boekemeier

Hi Andre,

Is it possible to install the bridge so that the debian security manager
doesn't stop the back end from running php, if no apache is installed or
used? As described here:
http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/pjb/FAQ.html#global-servlet

If it is not possible to manipulate tomcat's global web.xml from a debian
package, we could leave it as it is and add a note to the debian install
instructions
so that users can change the web.xml themselves.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

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Hi,

I tried install the php-java-bridge 5.4.4.1 on a debian lenny: I made a new
deb package (amd64), and copied the war file to the tomcat's webapp
directory.
When I call the http://tomcat:port/JavaBridge , I get: Servlet PhpCGIServlet
is not available.

What's wrong?


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Hello,
For some reason, the web.xml is not being accepted by Tomcat 5.5 auto
deploy.
I will investigate this.
If someone have some suggestions, feel free to post.
Also, there are some packaging errors at 5.4.4.1-1 deb file. Please, wait
the
5.4.4.2-1 or compile from repository tomorrow for this test. (See
README.Debian)
Regards.
Andre Felipe Machado

Hi,

I tried install the php-java-bridge 5.4.4.1 on a debian lenny: I made a new
deb package (amd64), and copied the war file to the tomcat's webapp
directory.
When I call the http://tomcat:port/JavaBridge , I get: Servlet PhpCGIServlet
is not available.

What's wrong?


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Hello, 
do you mean that fat jar is not the best solution? How to use jar://URI? (maybe a simple example or a link where I can find some examples) Where exactly do I find the proposal?


Hi,

Although it is possible to fetch libraries from other jar files using a
jar:// URI, at least in the Sun Java platform, this feature may not work on
other platforms; GCC/GCJ uses ELF libs instead.

I think there's no use for this feature. If you're looking for a java module
system, read the proposal from the RICE people, which was inspired by the
SML/NJ. It uses real generics to build compound modules.

Regards,
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Hello Jost,
I am very sorry but I still can't solve the problem which I described
yesterday. I try to explain it again in other words, maybe I explained it
not very clearly.
Well there are many jars in one jar (fat jar) I don't have to change
anything in this structure, I need only to access the classes .
I tryed  to get it with java_require and got this error:
exception javax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.RuntimeException: PHP
Fatal error:  Uncaught [[o:Exception]:"java.lang.Exception: Invoke failed:
[[o:JavaBridge]]->updateJarLibraryPath((o:String)[o:String],
(o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String]). Cause:
java.io.IOException: Could not open jar file WebProjekt2, reason:
WebProjekt2 (Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden) VM:
1.6.0_10@http://java.sun.com/" at:
#-18
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarFile(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:108)
#-17 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.createUrls(JarLibraryPath.java:192)
#-16 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.checkURLs(JarLibraryPath.java:117)
#-15 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.<init>(JarLibraryPath.java:64)
#-14
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:74)
#-13
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:87)
#-12
php.java.bridge.SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:111)
#-11 php.java.bridge.J in http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc on line
215

       php.java.servlet.PhpCGIServlet.handle(PhpCGIServlet.java:416)
       php.java.servlet.CGIServlet.doGet(CGIServlet.java:469)
       javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:617)
       javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
root cause java.lang.RuntimeException: PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught
[[o:Exception]:"java.lang.Exception: Invoke failed:
[[o:JavaBridge]]->updateJarLibraryPath((o:String)[o:String],
(o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String]). Cause:
java.io.IOException: Could not open jar file WebProjekt2, reason:
WebProjekt2 (Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden) VM:
1.6.0_10@http://java.sun.com/" at:
#-18
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarFile(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:108)
#-17 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.createUrls(JarLibraryPath.java:192)
#-16 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.checkURLs(JarLibraryPath.java:117)
#-15 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.<init>(JarLibraryPath.java:64)
#-14
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:74)
#-13
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:87)
#-12
php.java.bridge.SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:111)
#-11 php.java.bridge.J in http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc on line
215

The video which you recommended is only about one "folder"with classes. In
my case it is not so.
As Ihave already written "jars in jar"(fat jar) and I must not change this
structure...
It does not work:
<?php
require_once("http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc");

$System = java("java.lang.System");

$myObj = new java("web.FacettenBrowser");
echo  $myObj->HalloWelt();
?>

Many thanks in advance!






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Hi,

Although it is possible to fetch libraries from other jar files using a
jar:// URI, at least in the Sun Java platform, this feature may not work on
other platforms; GCC/GCJ uses ELF libs instead.

I think there's no use for this feature. If you're looking for a java module
system, read the proposal from the RICE people, which was inspired by the
SML/NJ. It uses real generics to build compound modules.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

Apr 28, 2009 3:24 nachm. schrieb am <
php...@li...>:

Hello Jost,
I am very sorry but I still can't solve the problem which I described
yesterday. I try to explain it again in other words, maybe I explained it
not very clearly.
Well there are many jars in one jar (fat jar) I don't have to change
anything in this structure, I need only to access the classes .
I tryed  to get it with java_require and got this error:
exception javax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.RuntimeException: PHP
Fatal error:  Uncaught [[o:Exception]:"java.lang.Exception: Invoke failed:
[[o:JavaBridge]]->updateJarLibraryPath((o:String)[o:String],
(o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String]). Cause:
java.io.IOException: Could not open jar file WebProjekt2, reason:
WebProjekt2 (Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden) VM:
1.6.0_10@http://java.sun.com/" at:
#-18
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarFile(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:108)
#-17 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.createUrls(JarLibraryPath.java:192)
#-16 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.checkURLs(JarLibraryPath.java:117)
#-15 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.<init>(JarLibraryPath.java:64)
#-14
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:74)
#-13
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:87)
#-12
php.java.bridge.SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:111)
#-11 php.java.bridge.J in http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc on line
215

       php.java.servlet.PhpCGIServlet.handle(PhpCGIServlet.java:416)
       php.java.servlet.CGIServlet.doGet(CGIServlet.java:469)
       javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:617)
       javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
root cause java.lang.RuntimeException: PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught
[[o:Exception]:"java.lang.Exception: Invoke failed:
[[o:JavaBridge]]->updateJarLibraryPath((o:String)[o:String],
(o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String], (o:String)[o:String]). Cause:
java.io.IOException: Could not open jar file WebProjekt2, reason:
WebProjekt2 (Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden) VM:
1.6.0_10@http://java.sun.com/" at:
#-18
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarFile(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:108)
#-17 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.createUrls(JarLibraryPath.java:192)
#-16 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.checkURLs(JarLibraryPath.java:117)
#-15 php.java.bridge.JarLibraryPath.<init>(JarLibraryPath.java:64)
#-14
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.checkJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:74)
#-13
php.java.bridge.DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(DynamicJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:87)
#-12
php.java.bridge.SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.updateJarLibraryPath(SimpleJavaBridgeClassLoader.java:111)
#-11 php.java.bridge.J in http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc on line
215

The video which you recommended is only about one "folder"with classes. In
my case it is not so.
As Ihave already written "jars in jar"(fat jar) and I must not change this
structure...
It does not work:
<?php
require_once("http://localhost:8081/Ordner/java/Java.inc");

$System = java("java.lang.System");

$myObj = new java("web.FacettenBrowser");
echo  $myObj->HalloWelt();
?>

Many thanks in advance!






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