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Interesting... I thought it had more scope than just allowing you to  
debug php code that uses PJB. I thought you were writing a complete  
debugger.

Incidentally I use xdebug and am having lots of segfaults on dev box  
so I will try disabling xdebug and see if this problem goes away.

Alan

On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:01 PM, php-java-bridge- 
us...@li... wrote:

> Alan,
>
> I don't understand your argumentation.
>
> The phpdebugger does not replace existing debuggers except "xdebug";  
> we want
> to get rid of this: http://bugs.xdebug.org/view.php?id=463
>
> Unless your product uses xdebug code, there's nothing to worry  
> about, I
> think.
>
> Regards,
> Jost Boekemeier
>
> On 29 Oct 2009 20:35, <php...@li...>  
> wrote:
>
>>> Why isn't this a separate project > > Creating a new project for a  
>>> single
> PHP file doesn't make m...
> I think it's a really interesting idea and it's very confusing having
> it buried in the php-java-bridge project.
>
> Even just having a single-file "project" on GitHub would be preferable
> IMHO. This is a *really* cool idea which is getting lost in the
> complexity of PJB.
>
> From a marketing perspective it deserves its own "space."
>
>>> What debug client do you use with it? PDT? > > Currently PDT.
> Ok...
>
>> With the new JavaBridge.war you can debug your PHP scripts >  
>> directly from
> your browser (Firefox ...
> Now you've got me confused again. What does the war file have to do
> with debugging php in the browser if the debugger is a single php  
> file?
>
> I hope that you don't feel I am being harsh or antagonistic. I have
> the utmost respect for your technical achievements (PJB is awesome and
> this debugger thing seems very promising) but as hard as I try to
> understand what's going on with these projects I find myself very
> confused about them -- what they do, how they work, how they're
> related to other projects. I think maybe that there are a lot of
> assumptions in your head that aren't in mine (esp since I am *not*
> coming from a Java background). But typically I am not a guy that gets
> easily confused... in any case I think most of your "users" are coming
> from a php background as well instead of java.
>
> Alan
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM,
<php...@li...> wrote:
> Alan,
>
> I don't understand your argumentation.
>
> The phpdebugger does not replace existing debuggers except "xdebug"; we want
> to get rid of this: http://bugs.xdebug.org/view.php?id=463
Does the phpdebugger rely on or _need_ the PHP-Java-Bridge ?
If not, the only common thing between the PHP-Java-Bridge and the PHPDebugger is
your person, as the main developer and genieous head behind.

Because one should not mix things together, that don't belong together (meaning
low cohesion in the vocabulary of software engineering), this should
definitely be
a separate project, even if it has (in the beginning) just one single PHP file.

People don't want to download the PHP Java Bridge just to get the PHPDebugger
and the other way around.

I'm not Alan, but I think that are his reasons and this is also my opinion.

No-one stops you from advertising the phpdebugger through the php java bridge,
but you should not bundle these things just because you are developing both.

Kind regards,
Dominik Dorn



> Regards,
> Jost Boekemeier
>
> On 29 Oct 2009 20:35, <php...@li...> wrote:
>
>>> Why isn't this a separate project > > Creating a new project for a single
> PHP file doesn't make m...
> I think it's a really interesting idea and it's very confusing having
> it buried in the php-java-bridge project.
>
> Even just having a single-file "project" on GitHub would be preferable
> IMHO. This is a *really* cool idea which is getting lost in the
> complexity of PJB.
>
>  From a marketing perspective it deserves its own "space."
>
>>> What debug client do you use with it? PDT? > > Currently PDT.
> Ok...
>
>> With the new JavaBridge.war you can debug your PHP scripts > directly from
> your browser (Firefox ...
> Now you've got me confused again. What does the war file have to do
> with debugging php in the browser if the debugger is a single php file?
>
> I hope that you don't feel I am being harsh or antagonistic. I have
> the utmost respect for your technical achievements (PJB is awesome and
> this debugger thing seems very promising) but as hard as I try to
> understand what's going on with these projects I find myself very
> confused about them -- what they do, how they work, how they're
> related to other projects. I think maybe that there are a lot of
> assumptions in your head that aren't in mine (esp since I am *not*
> coming from a Java background). But typically I am not a guy that gets
> easily confused... in any case I think most of your "users" are coming
> from a php background as well instead of java.
>
> Alan
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Alan,

I don't understand your argumentation.

The phpdebugger does not replace existing debuggers except "xdebug"; we want
to get rid of this: http://bugs.xdebug.org/view.php?id=463

Unless your product uses xdebug code, there's nothing to worry about, I
think.

Regards,
Jost Boekemeier

On 29 Oct 2009 20:35, <php...@li...> wrote:

>> Why isn't this a separate project > > Creating a new project for a single
PHP file doesn't make m...
I think it's a really interesting idea and it's very confusing having
it buried in the php-java-bridge project.

Even just having a single-file "project" on GitHub would be preferable
IMHO. This is a *really* cool idea which is getting lost in the
complexity of PJB.

 From a marketing perspective it deserves its own "space."

>> What debug client do you use with it? PDT? > > Currently PDT.
Ok...

> With the new JavaBridge.war you can debug your PHP scripts > directly from
your browser (Firefox ...
Now you've got me confused again. What does the war file have to do
with debugging php in the browser if the debugger is a single php file?

I hope that you don't feel I am being harsh or antagonistic. I have
the utmost respect for your technical achievements (PJB is awesome and
this debugger thing seems very promising) but as hard as I try to
understand what's going on with these projects I find myself very
confused about them -- what they do, how they work, how they're
related to other projects. I think maybe that there are a lot of
assumptions in your head that aren't in mine (esp since I am *not*
coming from a Java background). But typically I am not a guy that gets
easily confused... in any case I think most of your "users" are coming
from a php background as well instead of java.

Alan

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